Well they came to cut the trees down and it was a mess. This is a picture while they were cutting the trees down. There were limbs everywhere, you could not even see the ground. Then this is a picture after they left. We no longer have any grass and bought seed to start over. Brian and I spent all day yesterday in the yard pulling roots and Brian tilled the ground. We still have a long way to go. I was second guess what we did. Anyway we will now actually enjoy our yard once it is all done without pinecones and pineneedles everywhere.